Joe Biden says he will bring in 'Bidencare' if SCOTUS strikes down Obamacare - as he and Donald Trump butt heads over healthcare with president claiming Democrat is pushing 'socialism'

  • Biden said he would push through a 'public option' and attach it to Obamacare
  • Obama dropped the idea under the threat of a filibuster in 2009 
  • Trump accused his rival of 'socialized medicine,' but Biden noted he beat back Democratic primary rivals 
  • Trump said: ''I'd like to terminate Obamcare, come up with a brand new, beautiful health care'

Former Vice President Joe Biden said at Thursday night's debate he will add a public option as the capstone to Obamacare – which he called 'Bidencare' at Thursday's presidential debate.

Biden made the boast, resurrecting an issue that liberals tried and failed to enact over stiff Republican opposition during the Obama-Biden administration, during a tense fight on stage in Nashville. 

'What I’m going to do is pass Obamacare with a public option, become Bidencare,' Biden said.

It was one of several times Biden tried to distinguish the plans he says he will push through from how Trump sought to portray his rival: painting the Democrat as being for a 'socialist' health plan that would end private insurance.  

'What I’m going to do is pass Obamacare with a public option, become Bidencare,' former Vice President Joe Biden said at Thursday's debate

'What I’m going to do is pass Obamacare with a public option, become Bidencare,' former Vice President Joe Biden said at Thursday's debate

Biden observed that the attack does not comport with what happened in the Democratic primaries, where he that he captured his party's nomination after beating back opponents who called for a single-payer government-run plan.  

Trump went on the offensive on health care after moderator Kristen Welker turned to the issue following angry clashes where Trump accused Biden of 'corruption.'  

Healthcare is an issue Democrats touted at every turn during Supreme Court confirmation hearings, with Obamacare's constitutionality on the line. It is an issue Democrats used to pick up seats in Congress 2018.

Donald Trump said he would 'terminate' the Affordable Care Act, and tried to tar his rival with being for 'socialized medicine.' Biden said he would preserve private plans

Donald Trump said he would 'terminate' the Affordable Care Act, and tried to tar his rival with being for 'socialized medicine.' Biden said he would preserve private plans

‘He thinks he’s running against someone else. He’s running against Joe Biden. I beat all those people because I disagreed with them,’ Biden said.

‘He thinks he’s running against someone else. He’s running against Joe Biden. I beat all those people because I disagreed with them,’ Biden said.

Trump has been under pressure for saying for more than a year that he would produce a health plan but failing to do so. He has said it will come out after the Supreme Court takes up a case on Obamacare.

‘We have done an incredible job on health care, and we will do even better,’ he said, having succeeded in knocking out the individual mandate that people get insurance, but failing to take down the Affordable Care Act.

Trump said of his own plan: ‘But it no longer is Obamacare because without the individual mandate it’s much different.’ 

'I'd like to terminate Obamcare, come up with a brand new, beautiful health care,' Trump said.

He said Democrats would face 'tremendous pressure' to pass it, and said he thought Republicans might even gain control of the House – even as experts are saying Democrats could gain as many as 10 setas. 

'What we'd like to do is terminate it. We'd have the individual mandate done. I don't know that it's going to work,' he said.

Trump tried to identify Biden with ‘socialized medicine,’ forcing Biden to point out that he championed continued private insurance during the Democratic primaries.

TRUMP AND BIDEN'S MOST MEMORABLE LINES FROM THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE

DONALD TRUMP 

Trump boasts that he is 'immune' to COVID-19.

'I can tell you from personal experience that I was in the hospital. I had it. And I got better. And I will tell you that I had something that they gave me, a therapeutic, I guess they would call it, some people could say it was a cure. 

'But I was in for a short period of time and I got better very fast or I wouldn't be here tonight.

'And now they say I'm immune. Whether it's four months or a lifetime, nobody has been able to say that, but I'm immune.'

Trump emphatically claims he is the 'least racist person in the room' despite calling Black Lives Matter a 'symbol of hate'.

'I have criminal justice reform done, and prison reform, and opportunities, I took care of Black colleges and universities. I don't know what to say. They could say anything. 

It makes me sad. I am the least racist person. I can't even see the audience, because it is so dark, but I don't care who's in the audience, I'm the least race in person in this room.

Trump tells Biden he only ran for president because he and Obama failed

'Joe, I ran because of you. I ran because of Barack Obama. Because you did a poor job. If I thought you did a good job, I would have never run. '

Trump accuses Biden of taking money from China and Ukraine. 

'I don't make money from China, you do. I don't make money from Ukraine, you do.' 

Trump says Americans can't lock themselves 'in a basement like Joe' while speaking out against another lockdown.  

'We cannot lock ourselves up in a basement like Joe does. He has the ability to lock himself up. I don't know, he's obviously made a lot of money someplace, but he has this thing about living in a basement. People can't do that.'  

JOE BIDEN  

Biden sarcastically calls Trump 'Abraham Lincoln' after the president claimed he was the 'least racist person in the room'.

'Abraham Lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we've had in modern history. He pours fuel on every single racist fire. This guy has a dog whistle as big as a foghorn'.

Biden calls Trump 'very confused' over his plans to ax Obamacare.

'He's a very confused guy. He thinks he's running against someone else. He's running against Joe Biden. I beat all those other people because I disagreed with them.'

Biden slams Trump's cozy relationship with 'thug' Kim Jong  Un.

'He's legitimized North Korea. he's talked about his good buddy - who's a thug, a thug - and he talks about how we're better off, and they have much more capable missiles able to reach US territory, much more easily than ever before.' 

Biden dismisses Trump's claim that the coronavirus 'is going away'. 

'He says we're learning to live with it. People are learning to die with it.'

'If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this … anyone that's responsible for that many deaths should not remain president of the United States of America.'

Biden announces he will 'transition from the oil industry' in favor of renewable energy.

'I would transition from the oil industry, yes … because the oil industry pollutes significantly. It has to be replaced by renewable energy over time. ' 

 

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‘He thinks he’s running against someone else. He’s running against Joe Biden. I beat all those people because I disagreed with them,’ Biden at the end of their exchange. 

‘Joe Biden is going to terminate all of those policies,’ Trump said – playing to polls that show most Americans with private insurance want to keep their plans.

‘Not one single person with private insurance would lose their insurance under my plan nor would they under Obamacare,’ countered Biden. He said he would add a ‘public option’ that Congress couldn’t clear under Obama.

He said Trump ‘wants to take away’ people’s policies and pointed to 10 million who have lost private insurance under the Trump administration.

‘All the people from COVID are going to have preexisting conditions. What are they going to do?’ Biden said, with more than 8 million infections in the country – the most recorded in any country in the world. 

‘The fact that there’s a public option and people can chose, that makes it socialist?’ Biden asked. ‘This is something that’s going to save people’s lives.’

Trump claimed Biden ‘didn’t do anything’ in his 47 years ­in government – although he was there for enactment of Obamacare and was a key advisor in securing legislative votes on key measures.

During crosstalk, Trump unexpectedly took time to compliment Welker. ‘I respect very much so far the way you’re handling this,’ he told her.

But the attacks resumed. ‘He keeps talking about it - he hasn’t done a thing for anybody,’ said Biden of his rival.

‘He says public option he’s talking about socialized medicine,’ said Trump.

Then Biden pointed out that he beat back challenges from people like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

‘He thinks he’s running against someone else. He’s running against Joe Biden. I beat all those people because I disagreed with them,’ Biden said.

POLL SHOWS JOE BIDEN NARROWLY WON THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE

Former Vice President Joe Biden was narrowly judged to have won Thursday night's final presidential debate by 42% of viewers, while 39% of viewers believe President Donald Trump came out on top, according to a new poll for DailyMail.com.   

In a census-balanced OnePoll survey of over 500 people, the economy was the prevailing issue Americans wanted to hear the candidates speak about, followed by the coronavirus outbreak and healthcare.

Who do you feel won the debate?

Who do you feel won the debate?

Did the final presidential debate affect your choice of who to vote for?

Did the final presidential debate affect your choice of who to vote for?

Which topic was important to you to hear candidates speak about tonight?

Which topic was important to you to hear candidates speak about tonight?

Do allegations of corruption of Hunter Biden change what you think of his father?

Do allegations of corruption of Hunter Biden change what you think of his father?

A little more than half of the viewers said the debate did not affect who they will vote for, with 52% saying their mind is made up, while 38% said the debate did make an impact on their preferred candidate and 12% were undecided. 

The Hunter Biden corruption scandal loomed over the debate, with 48% saying the allegations against Biden's youngest son did not impact their opinion of his father. But 39% said it had changed what they think of the former Vice President.

An overwhelming 64% thought muting the microphones was effective after the trainwreck first debate saw the candidates constantly interrupting one another. 

The same 64% voted that they would like to see microphones muted for all future debates. 

How effectively do you feel the final presidential debate was moderated?

How effectively do you feel the final presidential debate was moderated?

Do you feel the muting of microphones (for candidates not answering in initial questioning) was effective?

Do you feel the muting of microphones (for candidates not answering in initial questioning) was effective?

Would you like to see microphone muting for all future presidential debates?

Would you like to see microphone muting for all future presidential debates?

There was widespread praise for NBC's Kristen Welker who moderated the debate, with 79% of viewers saying that it was moderated well. Of that, 37% said it was moderated 'very effectively' and 42% thought 'quite effectively'.  

60% of viewers agreed that the final debate restored their faith in the format of presidential debates after the first.      

Overall, 47% of American viewers found Thursday night's final presidential debate informative, with 18% feeling it was very helpful, 29% saying quite helpful and 30% voting that it was 'neither helpful or unhelpful'. 

What is your ethnicity?

What is your ethnicity?

What region do you live in?

What region do you live in?

The majority of voters in the poll were white Democrats between the ages of 25-34. 

37% of poll participants were from the South, while 22% were from the Midwest, 21% from the West and 18% from the Northeast. 

The genders were evenly split in the survey, with 50.57% female and 49.43% male.  

 

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